OK, just one last McCain VP speculation thread

Supposedly MSNBC has confirmed that Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty will not be John McCain’s running mate.

Several bloggers have noted that at least one plane was chartered from Alaska to Ohio, which would suggested he is going with Alaska Governor Sarah Palin.

That seems like a desperate choice to me. McCain is over 70 and a cancer survivor whose main argument against Obama is that he is not “ready to lead.” So then he chooses someone who not only hasn’t finished a single term as governor, but has already become mired in an abuse-of-power scandal? (She used powers of her office to try to get a state trooper fired because of he and Palin’s sister were going through a bitter divorce.)

Great move!

The arguments for Palin are

1) she’s a woman

2) she reinforces McCain’s arguments on tax cuts and oil drilling, and

3) perhaps Joe Biden would have to go easy on her or else look like a bully.

But 1) I am skeptical that picking a woman will significantly cut into the gender gap working in Obama’s favor so far. I guess we’ll know more when we have more polls taken after Hillary Clinton’s convention speech, which more than 20 million Americans watched.

2) Alaska cut taxes because the state receives a huge amount of money from the federal government compared to what they put in the federal coffers. You can’t run national fiscal policy the same way.

3) Biden can ignore Palin most of the time. His job is to be an attack dog on McCain.

If McCain wanted a woman, he should have gone with Texas Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison. She has experience in federal government. Even those some advocates on the religious right don’t think she is strong enough on the abortion issue, she does have an anti-choice voting record.

If it is Palin, props to Douglas Burns, who called that a long time ago.

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  • Palin

    I completely disagree with you. I have said before that the worst thing for Obama would be for McCain to pick a woman. He will be able to say that Obama’s talk about wanting to shatter the glass ceiling is just talk…while he is actually willing to do it.  

    • High-stakes gamble

      I think McCain is definitely going for a high-stakes gamble here.  This could turn out to be a brilliant move.  Or total bust.  There are so many obvious downsides to this.  McCain’s credibility is greatly dimished on his “Obama is not experienced enough” arugment – the best thing going for McCain.  Are the “ready to lead on day one” Hillary women really going to be impressed with Palin, who has less than 2 years gubernatorial experience, preceded by city elected offices in a small town.  And how are conservatives going to react to this identity politics gesture, picking someone based solely on their gender, not accomplishments.

      This definitely stirs the pot.

  • Couldn't agree more...

    I just don’t see her as a serious choice.  He can’t simultaneously make the argument that Obama’s not ready to lead while putting somone with over a decade LESS experience one heartbeat away from the presidency.

    The McCain campaign is a mystery wrapped in an enigma wrapped in a sneer.

    • An astoundingly poor choice

      IMHO

      I can’t figure out where they think Palin’s appeal lies.  While her status as an anti-abortion bulldog wins with the social conservatives, her status as a working mother with an infant at home undercuts that appeal.  Traditionalists like my dad who would have voted for McCain because of his anti-abortion/war veteran status won’t necessarily do so when there’s a woman with such thin experience on the ticket.  Listening to her speech today, I have to think they’re trying to position her as a cheerleader for McCain, and I just don’t think she has enough positives in her column to pull that off.

      Angry Mouse has a diary cross-posted at Kos and myDD titled, “No, Senator McCain, I am Not an Idiot” that addresses Palin’s supposed appeal to Hillary supporters.

      http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…

      (I hope the link works; I’m not very good at embeds.)

      • Appeal

        I believe that her appeal is simply that she is a woman–no other reason. McCain is wanting to get into the identity politics game. He had the advantage of going second in the VP pick. If Obama had picked Hillary, or for that matter any other woman, McCain would have picked Romney. On the other hand, if Hillary had won, and had not picked Obama as her vice, McCain would have picked an African American man.  

    • Not necessarily...

      The argument that McCain could (and should if they want to have a chance to win) make is that they got the ticket “right”.

      To make an analogy, the McCain camp could say that they got the ticket “right”–that it makes more sense to have the experienced candidate in the drivers seat and the new guy riding shotgun than the other way around (i.e. Obama/Biden)

      He’ll say, “Which would you rather have, someone inexperienced a heartbeat away or in the Oval Office from day one”.

      If done right, it could turn a major negative into a positive.

      I agree though, major high-stakes gamble. But the thing with high stakes gambles is–sometimes they win big.

  • In 1984

    Ferraro was picked admittently based upon her sex. Bush had to be cautious in the debate, but when election night was over, it was the worst thumping Presidential elections had ever seen.

    I really think they fumbled the ball on this one. If he was going to pick Palin, he should have done it before the Clinton speech at the convention.

    The only thing this pick will get McCain is control of an always red (Although recently leaning blue) state of Alaska.

    I believe that the glass ceiling will be shattered soon, however I do not believe giving the VP position to a woman merely because she is a woman says anything about the status of womens rights, I believe it is quite the opposite.

    • women's rights

      This was a big shock to me. I did not expect McCain to actually pick a woman. I do agree with you that giving a woman a VP slot just because she is a woman does not improve women’s rights. Palin is no Hillary Clinton.

      The emotions that I am working through right now is that I really believe that our country would be better off if more women were in office. However, Palin’s positions are very different from mine. With Hillary Clinton and Becky Greenwald, the choice was easy. I could vote for a woman and also vote with my convictions. Not true with Palin.

      I have a stanch conservative former co-worker that I argued with for three hours about whether women should work outside the home or not (seriously–in 2008). It pisses me off that he will likely vote for a woman VP and I will not. But, as my mother-in-law pointed out when I said that to her, it will probably piss him off even more.

      With Palin in the race though, we have not heard the last about women’s rights in this campaign. Obama will have to continue to demonstrate his commitment to women. And I believe that Hillary will have to continue to campaign for him.

  • Connected to Ted Stevens? Reformer? It doesn't jive...

    Reformer? Didn’t she cut a campaign ad with Ted Stevens? The indicted Ted Stevens?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…

  • Your points are perfectly logical...

    ..but logic isn’t the point of this pick.  

    Senator McCain has carefully laid the groundwork to spring this trap.  He’s rubbed salt in the wound of women who were so recently denied their dream of a female president in their lifetimes, then (seemingly out of nowhere) offers them a Republican version of that dream.

    It’s a risky move for Senator McCain, granted.  But he already knows that he’s running against the tide; He’s got to take risks.

    While I do not believe that Senator McCain personally cares one iota about Women in politics, he’s obviously aware that women are not an underrepresented minority, they’re an underrepresented majority, and he’s going to take advantage.

    Like you, I hope that tempted voters see this for the tokenism that it is.  I’d like the first woman president to be someone who’s clearly earned the position, like Senator Clinton.  Not just someone picked by another white male to target a demographic.

    But, as we all know, just because his choice isn’t logical doesn’t mean that we should underestimate the raw emotional power that Senator McCain is trying to harness.

    It might backfire.  I hope it does.  But it might just work.

  • Palin is an interesting choice; KBH woulda been a terrible one.

    Everything I’ve heard about KBH up close and personal, dmd, has been terrible.  She’s got some bad nicknames from staffers who have seen her in action.  Not to mention that a McCain/KBH ticket would have looked like the 20-year-membership celebration for the AARP or the gathering of an upperclass retirement community.

    I’ll share my thoughts on Palin on your newer post about her.

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